Utter Crap !!!!
That is what the sewage companies in the form of the Water Utilities are putting into our rivers, a few days ago Thames Water who had asked it's shareholders to lend it some more money, told Thames Water to put up their prices by 40% to cover the loan and other company debts LINK and on about the crap, at the Boat Race last weekend the sewage in the Thames made the rowers ill LINK
And now it looks like Thames Water is going to go bust LINK
Started: 5th Apr 2024 at 16:31
It’s a pity they were privatised. However, they have invested £190 billion in the water companies since privatisation. It really is another aspect of the growth in population over a relatively short time that contributes a hell of a lot of extra toilet flushes per day. Much more sewage capacity is needed as well as more reservoirs for water supply.
The water companies given far too much cash to shareholders, mainly foreign, in the form of dividends.
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 17:04
Another of the Tories great successes
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 17:14
It’s a pity they were privatised. However, they have invested £190 billion in the water companies since privatisation. It really is another aspect of the growth in population over a relatively short time that contributes a hell of a lot of extra toilet flushes per day. Much more sewage capacity is needed as well as more reservoirs for water supply.
The water companies given far too much cash to shareholders, mainly foreign, in the form of dividends.
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 18:33
We are heading back to the Victorian age with raw sewerage being pumped into our water courses.Not be long before the Victorian diseases are back among us Polio Typhoid and any other disease which we hoped had been eradicated
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 19:33
Has Gaffer says it all comes down to the massive increase in population there has been, and they all need water, Sunak is now on about either ignoring the ECHR or leaving it, which means we will not do either in the relatively short time the Conservatives have left in power, but will Kier Starmer do anything about it, the indications are that he will do sod all about it, because he is a human rights lawyer, which means his mates will be human rights lawyers, and those human rights lawyers are making a mint out of the {{{{{{{{BOGUS}}}}}}}} asylum claims they are working on, I am all in favour of genuine asylum seekers, but not these economic migrants who are falsely claiming political asylum, aided by these greedy human rights lawyers.
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 20:11
If there are three things that should never have been privatised, they are Energy, Water and the Post Office/Royal Mail.
All three of which are essental daily sevices for the public!
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 20:52
TTS
The judges in Strasbourg have recently tightened the rules for emergency orders to stop repatriation. It will be much more difficult in future for lawyers to stop repatriation via the ECHR.
However, the bigger problem has always been the Supreme Court the creation of which was one of Tony Blair’s biggest failures. It did, however, create a lot of work for his wife.
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 20:53
I think were - all agreed th is Tory government has ruined the country even captain Google has stopped trying to defend them
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 22:26
Handsomeminer
YES,,, we know the Tories are awful, but can yoo not post something else.
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 22:38
Thank you for that info Gaffer
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 22:39
the biggest load of rubbish iv,e heard for a long time . overpopulation my a**e no mention of MASSIVE PAYOUTS to shareholders who took money & nothing else . this is due to your heroine thatcher gaffer & 1stroke who has wrecked our country with their relentless privitisation program in pursute of the "quick buck" . how low are you 2 going to get in blaming others instead of who caused this in the 1st place .
Replied: 5th Apr 2024 at 23:43
Whupsy
Merry Christmas
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 00:04
same to you . wot a load of garbage .
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 01:11
OC
The Post Office is still in the public sector.
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 08:35
he £190 billion over 35 years what is the% of reinvestment of profit is that Gaffer ???
When Thatcher privatised the water industry in 1989 she wrote off £5bn of the industry’s debts, leaving water companies to start their new life with zero
Water company debt has increased from zero to £60.3bn in thirty years.
The debt cost them £1.3bn in interest per year....
In three decades, water companies have paid close to £53.1bn in shareholders’ dividends – more than £83.7bn in today’s prices,
Thames Water and Anglian Water have paid no corporation tax on the profits made from their utility business, while Yorkshire Water kept it's payments to the Revenue in the low millions
You cannot keep blaming growth in population for all the UK problems
but you could blame the growth in population on a tory GOV If you want???
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 09:29
Peter Israel
Shabbat Shalom
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 09:41
Whups, you are so wrong,the biggest problem is the increase in population,last year 1.2 million folk came here, about half a million left, this year up to now there are even more coming here, work it out.
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 10:50
Peter Israel
It should be obvious, even to you, that what I posted shows me not to be a fan of water privatisation.
In the 25 years from 1999 the UK population increased by 9.2 million. In the 25 years prior to 1999 the UK population increased by 2.5 million.
In 1999 the uk sewage works output of dry solid sludge, the stuff they spread on farmer’s fields, was 1.13 million tons. An average of 20 kilograms per person. Today that output will have increased considerably and obviously, going from the amount of river discharges, beyond the installed uk sewage works capacity.
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 11:12
Gaffer
Yes, and that chap in Bamfurlong processes a lot of this extra crap, he's done well out of it, where there's muck there's money
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 11:21
I wonder sometimes if Whupsy and Peter Israel are related, because they seem to have the same mindset LINK
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 11:24
TTS
Generally people don’t realise that central government planning on hospital, schools, roads, doctors surgeries etc. in 1999 would have been based on the then low levels of population growth. The forward planning would have projected 10 to 15 years . The upshot was that the new growth rate of population would have put the planners up the creek without a paddle. We’re still playing catch up.
Replied: 6th Apr 2024 at 12:03
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Whups
You are correct in saying that the Post Office is within the public sector as it part of the Department of Business and Industry, but Royal Mail is in the private sector and owned by International Distibution Services plc.
I was only making a general comment of what are two linked services, which I believe should both be in the public sector.
Replied: 7th Apr 2024 at 08:29
Last edited by Owd Codger: 7th Apr 2024 at 09:01:48
Gaffer is correct in intimating that those in power do not think forward enough in the planning of services etc and a ever increasing population.
Just after the war, one of my grandfathers who worked in the constuction industry told my parents that in years to come there would not be enough reservoirs, water storage places, sewrage works and water treatment plants built to cope what he said would be in years to come, a massive population increase.
How right he has been proved, especially when we get any long period of sunshine!
Replied: 7th Apr 2024 at 08:42
Last edited by Owd Codger: 7th Apr 2024 at 09:00:37
i never mentioned the post office but it,s not ALL in the public sector & it seems gaffer has conveniently forgot to mention that the ROYAL MAIL was privitised under tory legislation by their then whipping boy VINCE CABLE .
Replied: 7th Apr 2024 at 11:18